Thanks I already have a dialogue with him. Im impressed but was looking for someone with a neutral opinion of the various computers vs VB. Ive seen a few people say vb is better, and few people say the opposite. Im guessing its a combination of maybe bad computers, good computers, great vb, inexperienced computer players, very experienced vb players and whatever. Im not looking to buy Steves computers because I am joining his partners program. Im mostly trying to see if theres any upside to vb instead.